<div dir="ltr"><font size="4">Will the photographer be creating more privacy issues? </font><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Brian Kroll <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brian@fiberoverethernet.com" target="_blank">brian@fiberoverethernet.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
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</span>Hi Me Too,<br>
<br>
Can you explain what you are referencing?<br>
<br>
//Brian<br>
<br>
ME TOO:<br>
<div><div class="h5">> I thought someone made it clear. No fucking picture!<br>
><br>
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 12:10 AM, joe fuentes<br>
> <<a href="mailto:joseph.fuentes@live.com">joseph.fuentes@live.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> hello All<br>
>><br>
>> The problem as I see it with using POP3 and stuff like this is<br>
>> that it will clutter up your hard drive. I recall whilst I was<br>
>> an Outlook user, my PST file was approaching its max file size<br>
>> limit. Also there were limits on the size of the mailbox at the<br>
>> server side. When using Earthlink I had to delete a bunch of<br>
>> files on the server simply cuz I was running out of space.<br>
>><br>
>> These drove me in part to move to webmail. Plus if you download<br>
>> via POP your emails to your email client, such as Outlook or<br>
>> Thunderbird, the messages will disappear from the server, thus<br>
>> inaccessible via webmail. The downloaded emails will only be<br>
>> visible on the device you downloaded it to, most likely a PC. So<br>
>> you want to see those messages from another laptop, a tablet or<br>
>> smartphone - you're out of luck. You'll have to dig up those<br>
>> downloaded messages on the very device you downloaded them to.<br>
>><br>
>> Making things worse, if you start downloading messages to your<br>
>> tablet or worse yet your smartphone, you'll max out its storage<br>
>> capacity lickety split like if you use K-9 or another email<br>
>> client. on my Asus phablet I'm already facing space issues and<br>
>> I'm not even downloading emails.<br>
>><br>
>> So for practical terms looks like open source PGP plugins may be<br>
>> our only solution for now unless someone builds a secure webmail<br>
>> system from the ground up that has no opt out for encryption. The<br>
>> trick there for its widespread adoption is that is must be easy<br>
>> to use.<br>
>><br>
>> Thoughts anyone?<br>
>><br>
>> Joe<br>
>><br>
>> Crypto-chi] Follow up on March 14 crypto meeting at PS1<br>
>>><br>
</div></div><div><div class="h5">> "Whilst usingplug ins like enigmail for Thunderbird is great and<br>
> everything , we need to be cognizant touhhat quite often we are<br>
> using<br>
>>><br>
> webmail of one sort or another."<br>
><br>
> Most, if not all web-mail providers give you mailbox access via<br>
> POP3, or IMAP protocols which you can use with Thunderbird keeping<br>
> the content both plaintext and encrypted on your local system which<br>
> is more secure then browser based applications.<br>
><br>
> "Especially for those of on our mobile devices."<br>
><br>
> On Android, there is K-9 Mail and OpenKeyChain-- both work quite<br>
> well, but as I said in my talk mobile platforms are severely broken<br>
> in many ways. I would not store my private keys on a mobile phone<br>
> ever. Mobile devices are very easy to loose too.<br>
><br>
> "Fortunately there are various bowser extensions that facilitate<br>
> this. For gpg we can count on the following..."<br>
><br>
> Counting on software that has not passed community audits by<br>
> security professionals or professional cryptographers is dangerous<br>
> and should be avoided for sensitive use.<br>
><br>
> "Google has yet to release its own Chrome plug in"<br>
><br>
> I'm looking forward to this project, however I do wonder what<br>
> Google will do to continue scanning your email to serve you ads<br>
> based on the content so they can make money.<br>
><br>
> "It's alpha not yet ready for prime time.."<br>
><br>
> Don't trust early stage software especially new crypto to<br>
> sensitive needs, it may harm you.<br>
><br>
> "..don't know wot's taking them so long."<br>
><br>
> Strong cryptography, and good code is not a rush job as any<br>
> oversight can possibly compromise the security of the project in<br>
> turn your safety.<br>
><br>
> "Even Windows has support for GPG through VisualGPF."<br>
><br>
> "..Windows app that does key management stuff like sign, decrypt<br>
> and key maintenance. It's GUI based so you don't have to use the<br>
> CLI to perform these tasks."<br>
><br>
> GPG4Win has a nice interface and support for Windows.<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.gpg4win.org/" target="_blank">http://www.gpg4win.org/</a><br>
><br>
> "...even MS Outlook has its own GnuPG plugin. Though there are<br>
> some grumblings about Outlook being closed source, I think this can<br>
> overcome that objection."<br>
><br>
> Just using a plug-in that is open source does not make the client<br>
> less susceptible to compromise. This plug-in is also not written by<br>
> Microsoft.<br>
><br>
> ".. let's not forget our smartphones. Chatsecure, Textsecure,<br>
> Redphone.."<br>
><br>
> Yes, you should use all of these! They use strong crypto and have<br>
> been audited by professionals. 10/10!<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> All the best,<br>
><br>
</div></div>> -Brian<br>
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